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The ever popular ‘…I am…’ verse found in the book of John is often used to support the claim for the incorrect doctrine known as the ‘trinity’.

Here, John 8:58 is explained in context – without malice – in order to show that when the Messiah (Christ) said ‘…I am…’, that this simply means ‘he existed, before Abraham’.

The verse in the KJV translation reads as follows;

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 8:58 KJV
[unclear in this instance (without malice)]

The Clearer Translation of John 8:58 which will be explained in an easy-to-read manner, is as follows;

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I existed/was.
John 8:58 Clearer Translation

The Interlinear Text

The word rendered as Iam‘ in John 8:58, is the Strong’s Concordance Greek word number 1510;

As per G1510’s definitions, usage, and recorded appearances in the Scriptures – this can indeed be legally translated as ‘existed’, or ‘was’;

What does this all mean?

‘…I existed/was…’ therefore is simply referring to how Christ (to how the Messiah) existed before G-d had sent him to earth.

Now that this has been established, some Holy Scriptures that show us that Christ (Messiah) did in fact pre-exist in heaven before being born on earth, include Proverbs 8:12 and 8:22, which link with Matthew 11:19 and Luke 7:43-45;

‘I wisdom
The LORD made me as the beginning of His way,
The first of His works of old.
(Proverbs 8:12, 8:22 JPS Tanakh 1917)

The Son of Manwisdom is justified by her deeds.”
(Matthew 11:19 ESV)


The Son of Manwisdom is justified by all her children.”
(Luke 7:34-35 ESV).

Here, Proverbs speaks of how ‘wisdom’ was made by the LORD (made by God), and with these Scriptures, Matthew and Luke then clarify and confirm the riddle of Proverbs 8; in that ‘wisdom’ is an alias or ‘nickname’ of sorts for the ‘Son of Man’ – for Christ (Messiah).

Proverbs 8:12 and 8:22 thus show us that Christ was ‘made’, and in turn existed in the beginning of creation ‘at the first of…’ [God’s] ‘…works of old.’ [ref. JPS Tanakh 1917; see also Brenton Septuagint Translation, NET Bible, Berean Study Bible, and the NLT etc., in this instance.]

 Another verse, which clarifies that the risen King Messiah (Christ) indeed existed before being born on the earth is Micah 5:2 (or 5:1, depending on your translation);

But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days.
(Micah 5:2 ESV)

Here we read that a leader was expected to come forth from Bethlehem to be ruler in Israel, but at the same time – his coming forth is from ‘ancient days’ – i.e.;

he was born, then he leads many on earth with sound instruction from God, then was then raised from the dead – though with this; he existed before his walk on the earth, from ancient days.’

We could certainly visit and touch upon this and other matters that may present themselves as a derivative of this explanation of Holy Scripture – for the sake of brevity though, perhaps such can be shared at another time, G-d willing.

May the holy G-d bless you beyond maximum; believing in His risen Son the Lord Jesus Christ (Adonai Yehoshua HaMoshiach). Amen (Omayn).

Biblical Translation Disclaimers;

“Scripture quotations are from the ESV® Bible (The Holy Bible, English Standard Version®), copyright © 2001 by Crossway, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved. May not copy or download more than 500 consecutive verses of the ESV Bible or more than one half of any book of the ESV Bible.”

“Scripture quotations are from the ESV® Bible (The Holy Bible, English Standard Version®), copyright © 2001 by Crossway, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved.”

“Scripture quotations taken from the New American Standard Bible® (NASB), Copyright © 1960, 1962, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation Used by permission. http://www.Lockman.org

“Scripture quotations marked (NIV) are taken from the Holy Bible, New International Version®, NIV®. Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.™ Used by permission of Zondervan. All rights reserved worldwide. http://www.zondervan.com The “NIV” and “New International Version” are trademarks registered in the United States Patent and Trademark Office by Biblica, Inc.™ “

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